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Guest
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:18 pm  Reply with quote
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Although politics is no longer on FlameWarriors, there still is one variation - in fact, on the board I visit, we have one of these:

"Proleteriat" - This warrior may not come from an impoverished upbringings or do hard manual labor, but they sure act like it. Upon establishing their humble backgrounds, their primary attack is to denigrate any opposing warrior for their priveledged and pampered existences. This warrior can be either liberal or conservative, and has a complete and utter hatred for college students, suburban dwellers, teens who still live at home...just about everyone who doesn't work from 6 till sundown at the ol' steel mill.

A good counter-attack is to enquire how Proleteriat, with his long hours spent to earn his daily bread, is able to spend hours a day in a computer forum. While Proleteriat may claim to post from a public library or other egalitarian setting, only ADMIN can check his IP addresses to confirm or deny this.

FAVORITE QUOTE: "Until you're out on the street, working to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, your opinion means nothing. NOTHING!"

* - above is a true quote from a Proletariat on a forum I post at
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cptjeff
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:46 pm  Reply with quote
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sounds good, but just how powerful is this warrior?
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Fence Sitter
PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:21 pm  Reply with quote
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Many warriors have used their class in society /(regional situation) to great effect.

The Proletariat guise would be put to good use by an Imposter. I think in the general western world (where dial up accounts and antiquated computers are V cheap), a clue they are an Imposter is the fact they are posting from a setting other than their home/abode. It is possible they (a worker) is not saying they only have work part time now or are out of work, and indeed due to cost, need to use a internet connection elsewhere.

Someone who worked since they left school, had life tough, and has a somewhat naive idea of the countries true job situation, bitter at the world, might come across the same way too.

Any idea a working labourer doesn't have time to be on the net, is an interesting view. Firstly only those who labour very hard all day long, are going to get home, eat, shower etc and collapse. A few hours on the net, can easily be done from the time they undress eat and get ready for sleep.

If the Proletariat is going to argue how hard they worked to own something, they will fall prey to Therapist, as would any other warrior who tried an approach using a similar arguement. Often how hard someone worked to buy something is reflected in their opinion of whichever product/purchase. (Which is true for the general population) And that is the sort of arguement which will trump most responses a warrior has to offer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:40 pm  Reply with quote
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I'd say Prole is powerful as long as he intimidates other people who back off.

I'd add that, powerful or not, Prole is a very _lonely_ warrior. His only ally I could see would be Centurion, who follows a similar argument - "only people who served in the military can have opinions."

However, while Prole and Cent may have the same approach, they'd probably be bitter enemies - Cent is almost always conservative, while a Prole is almost always liberal.

In everyday (not-online) life in America, a lot of dormitory marxists (rich kids who become communists) often take work for a short period at some kind of manual labor, then throw that experience in people's faces whenever they're in an argument. In short, they're posers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:12 pm  Reply with quote
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Guest wrote:
Cent is almost always conservative, while a Prole is almost always liberal


Not so - a Proleteriat can be either conservative or liberal.

For a good example, go to Amazon.com or any place where they discuss the book "Nickled and Dimed," about the working poor.

Every single conservative who posts on that topic starts out with the exact same line, something like this:

"Well, I worked at low-paying jobs for long hours just like the author did, but I worked hard, moved up, got a promotion," blah, blah - just more American Dream crap.
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Akira
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:59 am  Reply with quote
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"Dormitory Marxists" = Pinko

Wouldn't "Proleteriat" describe any warrior who works for a living, or is older than the other warriors? People on board who are older than the others usually point that out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Akira wrote:
Wouldn't "Proleteriat" describe any warrior who works for a living, or is older than the other warriors? People on board who are older than the others usually point that out.

The way I understood the description of Proletariat, it's not that they point it out on occasion, but that they try to hammer the point home to anyone who will listen that they're "working-class" and "blue-collar" as a means of trying to establish credibility, much like Centurion does with his supposed military experience.
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Akira
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:35 pm  Reply with quote
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Ah.

I'm surprised the entry on Centurion never mentioned "Starship Troopers" by Robert Heinlein. That's like the bible of military people who believe they're superior to civilians.
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