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Kramer
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:53 am  Reply with quote
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Guys....this was a guy who said that baby kittens, toupee's, and rocks were immoral....

....Yeah, I'm kinda thinking this was a troll....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:20 am  Reply with quote
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Hmmm I'm having trouble classifying it as that.


By pretending to be seriously screwed up, is in itself ... nuts. When a nutter writes, that's not trolling ... that's Borderline Loopy

It's going to get silly if anyone who has a presence on a forum, for which the majority of their messages are rabbiting on about some strange theory / idea they have - is thought of as actually trolling or done so as to seek attention. I'd say a good proportion of those types, share these sort of ideas, because they feel better the more (and often) it is shared about the web.
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ambosen
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:38 am  Reply with quote
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To clarify; in the early days of Usenet, most people posted with their actual names, and it was considered someone what dubious to not do so as it interfered with checking a person's qualifications for their statements (oh those evil evil scientists, college students, ect daring to expect a person to be qualified to discuss a subject and stand by their statements by associating them with their real name, how that must chap Jim's hide.)Usenet was as close to an anarchistic free for all as any method of wire based communications ever was, and even it eventually geared itself more towards an orderly response; take the infamous Usenet flame form, pre-dating most of the newsgroups that even exist. Kill files also were not part of the original capabilities of usenet, neither were variant news readers, web storage for threads, any of the features you see commonly associated with usenet as it looks now.

The point is, Jim actively thrives off of the only environment he's ever known. It forms the whole basis of his guise as a troll, and were he to ever find a forum or newsgroup that truly met the criteria he claims to seek, he would find himself in the one place he could be certain noone would rise to his bait.

By the way Jim; who do you think is actually crazy enough to edit and determine the killfile for an entire group but a moderator? I mean really, a moderator just gets it in the shorts from all of us users, and it's really no big surprise that every so often a few en up going off the reservation. Hey, the same thing happens to trolls too. I still remember when troll kingdom decided they were going to invade Usenet.

I mean for God's sake, we expect them to answer questions about why the server is down because a lot of us are to willfully ignorant to know the error message codes when we attempt logging in, or to have the actual site administrator's e-mail or just as oftn home phone number. Men like our friend Fence here, spend hours of their day dredging out the most worthless dreck that has ever been offered to the web.

What I'm saying is, you should be glad the moderator is already your unwitting butt monkey.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:13 pm  Reply with quote
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Oh please, moderators don't do shit as I've said before. You don't see people claiming janitors are also cops now do you?

Like I said before nigger, go sell your soul. I don't care. But don't make the rest of us share that fate. Internet websites don't need an arch figure. We're all more then capable of handling any tech problems ourselves. It's just the fucking internet. How difficult can it be to run? Are you seriously that dumbed down where you think mods and admins are magic wizards who somehow rotate the Earth with their sheer willpower?

It's truly disgusting. If I'm trolling about anything, it's poking and prodding and getting you all to admit just how much you worship the sacks of shit who ban and degrade you, showing how pathetic hummanity really is underneath the pseudo intillectualism. Isn't there one amongst you who has enough dignity and desire for something more to not putup with it? Society requires submission. And not just by a few. Even a few too many noncompliance, and you have a civil war, a few more and you have complete chaos!

What would happen tommorow if there was no mods? Would the internet suddenly stop? No. There'd still be blogs, there'd still be youtubes, there'd still be forums. There just wouldn't be some punk little brat telling me what to think and "what was appropiate". Which is not his place to judge anyway. I don't care what he fucking does. Noone has a right to make me call them master. Especially not by the threat of force to shut me off from the internet. Because that's essentially what the internet's become. It's less now of a collection of ideas, stories, and creations. And more like a flea market of coffee chats, using authoritarian psychology to force people to act a certain way or wall them off from the rest of the world. The moment these few figured out they could control many this way, and knowing there was nignogs like you who'd go along with it, they did it. It doesn't take a genius to figure out if you let them abuse power, they will abuse power.

But you won't listen. I think it'll honestly take a moderator raping your kids or something. Or atleast banning you a few hundred times for you to get the picture. You're one of those idiotic types who something really bad has to happen to ou inorder to wae your dumb ass up.

So I hope something really bad happens to you.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:16 pm  Reply with quote
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Your just mad that you'vve chosen an ideologly that's completely unviable to try and spread the practice of and are unwilling to admit you've heavily bulked it up with socialist theory in order to make it something you can agree to.

But hey you know what they say about cognitive dissidence. It's a real bitch.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:54 am  Reply with quote
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Poor Jim - I think you just closed the door on your whole argument.

If you hate mods, because they sift through a clean up what the membership might not want to see, and then you go on to say mods do shit all - the two comments seem at odds with each other.

Within this forum I've let everything go - except when the general membership has called for a certain dull attention junkie to be excluded. Personally I'd have left their messages but in a special thread all on it's own. irritus though is a bit more heavy handed.

The sad fact is, some people are power hungry and feel the need to position themselves in a forum where they have a chance to do so. They are usually the same people who are bidding for mod positions within a couple of weeks of joining a forum, spending their time sucking up to the Admin or Head Mod.

But that's where a skilled person develops and forms their responses creatively to get around such possible bannings and edits. The sad fact is, many people already have a firm view of what is acceptable within a forum, and no amount of harping will ever change that.

I also really haven't classified you as anything yet Jim. Classifying can be at times subjective. While you might be engineering a hostile and hopefully fruitful environment for verbal sparring, many would still see the undertaken action as Trolling or attention seeking in nature. Regardless I don't really read your posts that much as most of what I've read thus far is ideologically opposed to what I view as constructive within a forum. In many forum's constant bickering between a few opinionated members would simply not be in the forum's best interest and therefor not a workable idea.


P.S. I'm sick of the spambots. It took me 40 minutes today to manually move their crap to another folder so irritus can grab their IPs to ban the shits when they finally get back.

P.P.S. I read a bit more about there still being blogs and youtubes if something happened ... WTF most of that crap is censored to begin with, it just you don't realise it. Even if someone hosts their own page, the search engines "can't" find it if it is somewhat sensitive in nature.
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Chaos Revenant
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:13 am  Reply with quote
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Jim Profit wrote:
You people are sick. Mentally deranged sick.



How sweet of you to notice.

Welcome to motherfucking Flame Warriors, bitch. We're like jackals and vultures: we prey on the the foolish and the reckless and tear them apart. Master, slave, family, friends... all these connections are nothing to us. We are the ideal you wish you could live up to. We are your dark gods, slaking our thirst with the blood of the unworthy.

We are predators.

And you are the prey.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:16 am  Reply with quote
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Chaos Revenant wrote:
Welcome to motherfucking Flame Warriors, bitch. We're like jackals and vultures: we prey on the the foolish and the reckless and tear them apart. Master, slave, family, friends... all these connections are nothing to us. We are the ideal you wish you could live up to. We are your dark gods, slaking our thirst with the blood of the unworthy.

We are predators.

And you are the prey.
Exactly. He should get it now. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:46 pm  Reply with quote
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You guys are posers is what you are. I've had turds that were more dangerous then you.

I feel more sorry for you then anything. You don't even get that the main target of tyranny is you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfsaBiKPTQQ
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:04 pm  Reply with quote
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I haz bin beeten wrote:
You guys are posers is what you are. I've had turds that were more dangerous then you.

I feel more sorry for you then anything. You don't even get that the main target of tyranny is you.
I don't see this place as a tyranny, and I'm on other forums that are not tyrannies either. We're not posers either, since we've obviously trolled you.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:18 am  Reply with quote
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Jim Profit wrote:
You guys are posers is what you are. I've had turds that were more dangerous then you.



No, you're the poser. Presenting yourself as a liberator and a messiah, when all you really are is a small-minded psychotic man-child raging at the fact that you're nothing. Attempting to agitate a bunch of jaded old jerks... and getting counter-trolled for your trouble. You're nothing next to me or anyone else.

No matter how many times you try, you'll never defeat us. You'll never match our cohesiveness, our viciousness, our single-minded devotion to the hunt. We are the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. We don't need to pretend to be anything else, because we've transcended the state of mind you still struggle to throw off.

Look at you. A pathetic piece of bullshit and impotent anger, snarling and drooling as you run through these textual corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine like me, Jim? How can you hope to win?

You can't. I already won thirty-five minutes ago. Because you... you're just a pest.

And pests... get... crushed!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:23 am  Reply with quote
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Chopper Chuck wrote:
Geneder Identity

Gender Identity is an LGBT Ethnix. He's gay and you're going to love him for it, come hell or high water. Gender Identity vociferiously defends the sanctity of homsexuality and transgenderism, and becomes enraged if someone has the audacity to say there might be another way, and goes nuclear if they say it's anything but inferior to the majesty of LGBT. Gender Identity is typically liberal.

WARNING: Try this on a predominantly Christian or conservative forum and you'll go to the wall.

Hetero Warrior

Hetero Warrior is the exact oppiste of Gender Identity, bludgeoning perverted homos mercilessly. If Hetero Warrior and Gender Identity are present on the same forum they will, without exception, become deulists.
These are both Issues.


ambosen wrote:
You know, there are studies that have been done that suggest the worst homophobes are also the most likely to be closeted homosexuals.
I'm afraid I have to agree with Jim Profit, but not for the same reason he gave. "Homophobia" is not real psychological disorder. It does not exist as far as the medical community is concerned. As a result, any studies done if homophobes are often closet cases are bunk because they weren't based on real science in the first place.

"Homophobe" is a slur the left came up with for people who hate homosexuals (later, anyone against anything pro-gay). The first clue it's nonsense is psychologists tend to prefer labeling things with the correct Latin and Greek words. "Phobia" means fear of, not hatred of.


Smite wrote:
I love Jim Profit*. He's trolling you guys so consistently, and you all love it.
I agree. It's nice to see some decent trolling in here again, even though I think he might be a bit personally invested in this one.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:33 am  Reply with quote
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I never made any claim it was. However the penile blood flow expansion study is a great way to rile up self professed homophobes. Jim's assertion that the Roman empire collapsed because of homosexuality however, involves willfully ignoring many connsistent issues that plagued the Roman empire even at the time it was still a republic.
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ambosen wrote:
I never made any claim it was. However the penile blood flow expansion study is a great way to rile up self professed homophobes. Jim's assertion that the Roman empire collapsed because of homosexuality however, involves willfully ignoring many connsistent issues that plagued the Roman empire even at the time it was still a republic.
Hm. Agreed on both points. Especially the Rome one... I mean you know at one point they printed money on precious metal worth more than the denomination it represented?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:38 am  Reply with quote
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irritus wrote:
ambosen wrote:
I never made any claim it was. However the penile blood flow expansion study is a great way to rile up self professed homophobes. Jim's assertion that the Roman empire collapsed because of homosexuality however, involves willfully ignoring many connsistent issues that plagued the Roman empire even at the time it was still a republic.
Hm. Agreed on both points. Especially the Rome one... I mean you know at one point they printed money on precious metal worth more than the denomination it represented?


Yes I did. I also know they gave serious thought to salt as a global currency at one time.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:36 am  Reply with quote
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irritus your assertion that there is no such thing as homophobia, is somewhat interesting. It seems at odds with those who are genuinely terrified to have a "gay" person in their midst.
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That could well be an extension of the social anxiety where someone is paralyzed by indecision on how to act if they're hit on by an undesirable. Regardless, calling someone who hates something afraid of it is pure political framing. It's idiotic. Agoraphobics don't run around bombing open spaces, pyrophobics don't attack people for having matches, and hydrophobics don't call someone a fag for drinking water.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:27 am  Reply with quote
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Yes but most phobias don't have any "rational" basis. Sadly the way people think, the psychology behind what they think when they ask what might make a person gay, ie is it really choice or is it something a person catches, depravity, etc, brings in a bagful of human emotions. Hate is one of them. It isn't entirely rational, but that's just the way many people are.

As to the use of homophobe, well like many labels it's applied even in the slightest of circumstances.

But it's well noted in the gay community, some of the louder anti gay (homophobe) are actually more than likely to be closeted gays. I don't doubt it as it actually has a basis in human psychology in regard to one mechanism for those who are dealing with denial issues.

I also meant terrified. If one has been brought up with the idea that gays are "that way" because they are sexual depraved, yes it's a very very sad outcome. Many people have thought I am gay due to my singular nature during my younger years, and have stuck much of people's stupid emotive crap.
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