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Clueless Newb Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 18

exactly txroadtrip! that is why they cannot provide any evidence.

little do they know i have a constitution of iron. i was an online junkie back when online was first invented. i guess they figure everything they say is real?

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

regardless of timestamp, theres no proof to link madconsumer from m3c to CB anymore then oldtimer/superbowl to littlestewie, It's a stalemate as far as that's concerned.

The one they should be focusing on CB is me. But they have no idea who I used to be on m3c, and I intend to keep it that way. I can strike where the m3c mods and addys have no jurisdiction. As far the "minions" on my3cents agreeing, nada, Lynch mob all the way.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

Here's the letter that started this thread on CB.

Something needs to be done about the My3cents.com site. I know there really aren't any agencies that can do anything, and I know there really aren't any black-and-white laws, and I know that no one is forced to go to that site - yes, I know all this. But something needs to be done anyway.

Why? Because people who go to that site have absolutely no idea whatsoever what they are getting ready to have happen to them out there.

The site presents itself as a place where people can express their opinions about companies, stores, products, etc. A lot like PlanetFeedback.

The problem is with the regular members out there. As soon as they see someone new has posted an opinion about anything, they pounce. They attack. Relentlessly. Over and over and over again.

They attack your intelligence. They attack your spelling. They attack your responses. They blame you for what happened to cause you to complain. They challenge why you even bothered to make the complaint. The pound and pound and pound you. They just sit back and wait until someone new comes along, and then they attack.

It gets so bad out there - on Feb. 13, 2010, a person posted a typical complaint about a typical situation, nothing memorable. But the My3cents.com people smelled her, and they mercilelessly surrounded and verbally beat her black and blue, with dozens and dozens and dozens of figurative punches to the face and kicks to the ribs - until this person gave up and wrote that she had just swallowed enough pills to kill herself.

Did the people on My3cents.com care? No way! At first they were oblivious to the person's claim that she was commnitting suicide - they actually kept beating her up (this was day two of the assault, by the way).

Someone eventually pointed out that there was no longer a reason to keep up the assault, and they started screaming how her death wasn't their fault! The whole conversation changed from "This person and her opinions are so stupid" to "I didn't say anything mean or bad to her. You can't blame her death on me."

Whether she killed herself or not is not the point; all we know is that she said she was going to. The point is that she had no idea what she was getting herself into when she went to that site to express her opinions. She had no idea there would be hours after hours and day and day of attacks on everything about her.

All she wanted to do was express herself.

And the regulars out there on My3cents.com? Nothing ever happens to them. No matter how vicious they get, the site's Administrators just move their nasty comments to a section called "Other" and let those people continue doing what they do.

The best way to describe it: It's like the a dark and smelly basement where they hold dog fights. New people are the bait dogs, regulars are the attack dogs, and the Administrators make sure to keep the attack dogs hungry enough and ready enough to keep everything interesting.

I know some people complain from time to time about PlanetFeedback, but let me tell you - this site gets results without the maniacal tantrums that feed a group of the lowest common denominators on the World Wide Web. The difference is black and white, and maybe some day there will be laws in place to protect the innocent from such sites.

Maybe we need a rating system, like the movies and albums have, so we know what we're getting into when we approach any site.

My3cents.com needs to protect your new members. They are only there to express their opinions. Your regular members are only there to amuse themselves in how they can one-up each other with their attacks. You know who they are. If you can't deal with them, new people shouldn't be essentially tricked into feeding your site for your regulars' bloodlust.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 18

the point is, NO ONE can prove i was madc on CB. there are many many copy-cat nics on CB from the troll site m3c. again, there is no evidence i was that madc on CB.

what was the purpose of posting the thread i created? if you are trying to justify their actions, then you need to do further investigations and see where my thread came from.

do you agree it is okay for other members to call other members stupid or mentally ill?

if so, then you are mentally ill and stupid!

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

LETS DROP THE COMPLAINTS BOARD FOR A MOMENT... I'm gonna to play devils advocate right back, the only way you'll every match someone who posts on both sites is if Max Spankie (m3c owner) and Liz Arden(CB owner) compared IP databases,
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Well the point was raised that MadC wasn't there at all. I looked and the evidence stacks up that such a member did at one stage exist.

There's little point arguing that, page 66 of comments, is pretty conclusive.

MadC stated "foremost, there is NO member on complaintsboard named madc"
I can think of a reasons why you or MadC can't read what I've actually written in regard to that, rather than just guessing what I'm saying.

As to catching out "sock play" or a Mimic there's a lot normal users could use to prove such things. But it takes someone who ... isn't just a chump.

IPs on their own individually, btw, are for the most part meaningless. Lots of admins and Mods knee jerk, and react, but in reality one has to compare deeply, find out if the ISP has a small pool or a shared IP, and a few other things. However, long term patterns speak very very loudly, and as such, it is long term patterns which prove one way or another something is up.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

Clueless Newb Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 18

justice just allows that troll forum to guage his self worth. it is just a fricking website with faceless ip addresses.

he will be back.

as expected, supertroll thinks consipracy in everything.

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

Actually, I think he was back before he even left. That puddin tane nic is starting to look more and more like him.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 18

but alas, puddin tane is gone now too.

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

yup, it was shortly after littletatas snide remark.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 24 Mar 2012 Posts: 18

my next troll to have removed will be littletata.

i wonder what happened to venice-the-menace??

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

That might a sticky wicket getting littleshorty removed from my3cents. She has admin protection from the queen.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

I still don't get what this site is all about. It doesn't appear to be any different then any other forum, where the veterans feel the need to highhand the newbies or one up them.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

It think it can be a rude awakening for any former members who were used to a nearly modfree community. Since 2007, the admin slowly started tightening the TOS noose due to constant whining by certain members.

In the old days my3cents had some real characters. It wasn't always pretty, but fun none the less. (if you have thick skin). No one really took each other that seriously like they do today. Here's a link to a typical m3c discussion way back when..

http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=28142

Fence.. I think this is one of the best, as far getting a glimpse of the main cast of m3c. You'll see a little of everything. Todays tos would never allow a thread like this. Enjoy

One more thing.. Lidman keep in mind that there are plenty of forums out there, and not all of them are over moderated like m3c. You might have to endure that newbie period but everyone goes thru that "new kid on the block" period.
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Yes, it's odd I didn't see any replies trying to get to the bottom of the problem ... apart from stating they should give up aol.

Typical reaction from a xenophobic clique that's not exactly the brightest about. If anyone ever hands them their arse, out comes the eraser pen or a chorus of back patting.

The more I look the more mind numbing it seems.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

Despite some of jerktrolls that somewhat polluted the thread, I think there was quite a few comments by members who touched base on their aol experiences. Unfortunately it requires having to weed thru all the annoying ones, to get to the good ones.

Despite some of the trollish behavior on that thread, the OP still have more freedom of speech then they do now. Also it was about three months after this time period, that the admin appointed several senior members as moderators.

Thanks for your insight on these threads I've shown to you. I admit that it's easier for me to tune in to them, being familiar with alot of the members at that time. If I had read this review the first time, I might have quit after the 4th or 5th comments. It took a while until any of the civil members shared their input. Usually if a popular civil member posts first, (with a positive comments) that tends to keep away the site trolls.
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Oh I did read through. It looks like a few comments have been pruned out. I wouldn't have considered the responses all too thorough, apart from recommending the obvious which was to quit aol - and that was just one person.

Apart from that one person with a one line response stating they should quit aol, no one addressed the odd billing problem. No one asked what sort of plan and contract she had.

No one considered that maybe Ann wasn't all that familiar with complicated computers, browsers, and other web related things.

There was no apparent consideration that she may have been brought up and expected a degree of civil conduct.

On the whole, the responses focused on arguing, and though some did offer their thoughts on how to deal with that issue, no one really bothered with her "GREATEST CONCERN."

" Usually if a popular civil member posts first, (with a positive comments) that tends to keep away the site trolls."

Yes if anyone from the Clique were to respond positively, the rest would surely follow.

Outside of cliques, or xenophobic communities though, it can take a few "yucky" comments to derail an entire thread. On average, a more sincere and savvy crowd will ignore the derail and try to address the OP and also not worry about styling their comments in a similar grain to the loud mouths.

What does often happen in the average forum, is a few loud mouths jump onto a thread, (Howlers and a few other types not overly fond of newbies) and then consequently, even nice people will succumb somewhat, and their subsequent comments generally won't stray too far from the norm. It's a common problem on "help" forums, and yes, it almost inevitably drives the OP away. It means those who put a lot of time into trying to solve the problem never get to find out if their ideas worked or not and if the OP was able to solve the problem. Eventually those who watch their efforts go up in smoke time after time as the mods and admin do nothing or little to check the appalling behaviour, realise the forum is a lost cause and leave. Smart people might be smart, but problem solving takes someone who's good friends with logic and a real feel for what the average Joe or Jill might do first before asking for help.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

I've noticed on M3C that disagreeing, or even agreeing with the letter
writer takes on a gang form.

I guess a large amount of the membership on M3C either cannot, or will
not think and speak for their own selves. The majority of comments
just follow what one of the site favorites posts first as both tx and fence mentioned. The little minions are just following along like the lost little souls that they
are. Most of the smart ones are forever gone from there now and it
shows. Keeps me entertained though. I read a positive review about a product recently that not a single M3C member commented or voted on.
A positive review about the very same product was written by one of
the moderators and it had a slew of comments and around 20 helpful
votes.

A perfect example of how it works there.
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Yes, plenty of people there who perhaps have good intentions who feel it's best to stay out of the ring, but end up bending to the will of the clique and sing along with the forum's Sycophants.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

Here's one you've probably come across in many forums. The unsolicited parenting advice should the newbie/OP dare share a consumer experience that involves their kid being mistreated.

A classic example would be on fastfood reviews, no matter what the nature of the complaints they'll be a few "nutrition experts" chastising the OP for letting their 9 or 10 year old eat a baconcheeseburger, or drink a milkshake.

Occasionaly I'll create an account on there, write a compliment review on McD"s on how much I like their angus burgers, And the "nutrition clique" would comment the fat contents and bleh bleh. But if one of their writes a review, well you can fill in the rest.
I like messing with them on occasion.

Of course their expertise is not limited to nutrition, pretty much any topic. They fall under every type of warriors that has to do with being a know it all. I have an new warrior name you might want to consider (unless it's been used already) THE WIKI WARRIOR
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Hard to say exactly, because I've seen a few different modes, though they're posting the same sort of stuff.

Parenting observations probably mostly falls broadly under Blow Hard because you'd be surprised the number of people who think having kids makes them an expert at just about everything in discussion, and they pride themselves in "having worked it all out" often commenting how many kids they've raised. They especially resent being advised, and will often burr up over small insignificant remarks.

Sometimes the trails of being a parent, can mold them into an Ideologue (there's a number of different approaches to raising children) or an Issues

Outside of whether or not one has children, people have opinions and beliefs, which may or may not be entirely valid. Being a parent doesn't make anyone special on the internet, and yes, if one posts something, there is a good likelihood there is a "critical thinker" reading.

Yes, I think there has been something along the lines of someone who uses wikipedia to fight battles - has been suggested or at least of all discussed.

Again, know it alls often fall into different types depending on how they conduct themselves. Identifying how much they really know, is difficult. Anyone who's arguing would probably check and cross reference to make sure they've not overlooking or forgetting something.

There are a few sciolist types ranging to more serious types identified . One of the earliest "know it all" types I ran across was the Weekend Expert but has nothing to do with weekend activities, like sports or weekend hobbies. A long winded description is in the crypt, but basically it's someone who is a fast study and from scratch after a weekend of study, they can fairly competently argue with the best in the field. LikewiseArmchair Expert is another that comes to mind.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

http://www.nowpublic.com/people/adult-cyber-bullying-should-laws-protecting-children-also-be-applied-toward-safety-adults-part-i

I've visited this site a couple of times but never registered. I was somewhat intrigued by this story because the writer "galaxyonline" didn't seem to practice what she preached. Pointed out by some of the commenters, and the way she described herself in the profile. But on the bright side, at least you know what you could be dealing with it, and to keep distance.

Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

It looked like galaxy617 copy and pasted that aolchat log 'selectively". Obviously she left out some of her initial comments and started it off with zillabeas comments, trying make it look like Z was the fall person. I even think galaxy copied and pasted that cyberbully article trying the gain the sympathy of the other members, who didn't fall for her shanigans.

The profile definitely shines her in a bad light.
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

I would say Galaxy select only comments that seemed relevant to the bullying for a start.

That's what a lot of people do.

Past history can be enough for members to jump into action. Did I read "death threats?"

If the threats were indeed made it suggests a personality disorder.

Being totally hypocritical or contradictory is often a tell for people who are tilted towards being narcissistic. So is, I think, lots of photos of oneself without any good reason or purpose.

Narcissism is sad, and can have far reaching effects, generally because of the difficulty to gauge if it's just a few traits, borderline or a full blown disorder. The impact on those around is not realised generally until in hindsight and the rose coloured glasses are off.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

what the fuck is this shit?? the biggest troll on my3cents is debtorbasher hands down........well again check out some more of the debtorbasher links and give them the attention you gave this one.