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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

I'm sure this rant and rave by the Debtorbasher fall under various warrior categories, but there are so many of them to make a clear distrinction, heres a link to the comments of this rant and rave post...

enjoy reading

http://community.my3cents.com/showTopic.cgi?id=9538

Start Acting Like Adults Here !!!
Posted by DebtorBasher Bookmark Page Print Email Share

It's time for members to start acting like adults. If you don't get along with another member or you just don't like another member...then either ignore them and stop fueling them or take it to a private battleground like through IM's or Emails. We are losing too many members because they are disgusted with the behavior here.
I was pleased to hear from one of our former members today announcing their plan to come back...because they feel that Admin finally got some control over the site. THEN I get another message from a member who is bailing out because they're tired of of the treatment on here.
If you have a bone to pick with someone, that is between you and that member, this isn't the 3rd grade schoolyard where everyone has to take sides with one member or the other. No one has to fight your battles for you and no one should feel they are letting another member down because they won't take sides...I'm not the only one that feels this way. You want rules, then you need to follow them just as you expect those you "don't" like to follow them.
Membership doesn't come with individual rules, they come with site rules ... meaning all members are to abide by them.
Not like the rules and leaving because of it is one thing...but not liking any particular member or members and forcing them off by harassing them is another. I am not posting this with any particular member or incident in mind because we have ALL been through it with one member or another and we see it on a daily basis.
If a member leaves and a thread is posted in support of that member, it isn't necessary to bash that member after they've gone because they most likely already know if you didn't like them here. Face it, just because one or two members doesn't like someone for whatever their reasons are, it doesn't mean that others feel the same way and even it they do, it may be their choice not to voice it on a public thread.
Maybe the rules of the site should be changed for members to be 18 and under because that's what so many people act like...like kids in grade school. I'm not pleased with seeing people leaving at the rate they're leaving. And unless that member tells us WHY they are leaving you really can't say it's because of this member or that member.
Harmless poking at each other is one thing and we all do it...but when it comes down to just plan mean and degrading and backstabbing and feeling that they have to make a comment after every comment another member posts, telling them they are wrong when they offer advice, those are the ones that Admin need to take a serious look at. If you don't agree with the advice someone gives...then just post the advice you have for the poster and let them decide which advice they want to take...that's what this place is for...for different opinions and different advice...it's stupid to think everyone thinks the same or knows the best advice...they can only voice what they believe to be advice that may help the person asking for it. If everything thought the same, this site wouldn't even been necessary in the first place because everyone would be doing the right thing.
It's time to grow up and pull whatever bug you have stuck up your @ss and be adult about it.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

this looks like an authentic peace offering until the last sentence(bolded) I'm not sure there's a type of warrior who makes bogus peace offerings to ones she was at war with. Here's the link to the link.

http://community.my3cents.com/showTopic.cgi?id=15724

Message To Madconsumer...From The Basher...
Posted by DebtorBasher Bookmark Page Print Email Share

I originally posted this on a thread, but didn't realize it was on the feedback forum...so, I wanted to post it here, where you would see it...

I'm willing to call a truce with MC if she is willing to do the same. We should all respect other members comments as they are written...if one member doesn't agree, that's fine, there's a way to disagree without turning it into a battle...we don't HAVE to like each other, but we can be civil to each other...I'm only offering this one time and one time only..... Truce MC?

The olive branch is a branch of an olive tree. In Western culture, derived from the customs of Ancient Greece, it symbolizes peace or goodwill. The original link between olive branches and peace is unknown. Some explanations center on that olive trees take a very long time to bear fruit. Thus the cultivation of olives is something that is generally impossible in time of war. [1] Another possible explanation is that olives are among the first agricultural crops and an offering of an olive branch is a way to establish peace and camaraderie through agriculture.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

I was long gone by this time, so I don't recall this thread. It's amazing how gullible some of the members are in believing her nonsense.

Good job in highlighting that sentence in bold.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

There's plenty more where this came from.
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

People almost always set a slightly different standard for themselves than what they apply to others. This is human automatic response, we all do it, we'll allow certain people the benefit of not getting something right because they have not gained the experience to know for sure, and consequently may counter by ensuring the same don't have permission to be a position to get it wrong.

Some people though, set or cast very different standards for themselves when compared to people of an equivalent calibre or well above off the typical sliding curve when applied to others.

In real life, people encounter this all the time, and typically someone in their life has struck someone with mild personality disorder (ie tending towards Narcissism, Egotism, Sociopathy, Superiority Complex) or even someone who's a psychopath (someone born who has an impaired capacity to instinctively know right form wrong)

A talented warrior (perhaps mostly Troller or Picador ) exploits this fact.

It's also difficult in such forums for mods as well, where such abuses are taking place, the sum of a few small subtle responses can be engineered (by the crafty warrior) to be seen as actually something of a much larger picture ... even when there is nothing much there.

Edit fixed tag error
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

You're right about the standards settings. But in the case of the my3cents golden circle of trust" I think their own standards are within the clique is that they can do know wrong. Only with in their confines.

THat is why the rival site "complaints board" is a perfect foil for them. They dispise that site which I love. hahahaa the m3c gestapo have no juristication in that zone,
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Well that sadly is probably how it is.

Some members will go to great lengths to ensure their little puddle stays as it is. Hence Xenophobes

Some members are reaching upwards to gain further power and influence, and will from time to time take a bat to a few of the forums lambs which aren't following blindly.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

That's what makes most of them such easy targets to CB snipers.

You brought up a good point about ones willing to club weaker members to advance themselves. m3c has a new member ( also on CB) who fits really well into their "golden circle of trust". Sometimes the m3c groupies try to dupe us on CB by being civil to a new member once in a while. But it's usally a former member or one like this "whythelongfaces" whose unsavory comments towards the OP's, fits right into the clique.

In any case, it's just entertainment to me. I would never troll any boards that I consider civil. Most m3c members starting off usually write a review aboutr company. One's that have never posted reviews or sharing their own consumer experience, are usually there just to patronize the reviews complaints.

There should be site called complain about complainers. LOL
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

Yes TX, if a newbie is willing to "blend in" being somewhat of a Sycophant it's a good bet they won't encounter so much hazing from the clique.

It doesn't surprise me that a member from CB on joining m3c will be met with "the Custom officials" who are immensely worried they might just have a bit to say which might rock the boat at m3c, and put them in a holding cell (ie Moderated ... posts need to be approved)

Undoubtedly, a few members at complaint sites are actually Agents (apart from the officials endorsed from the actually company to look after issues.) At m3c I don't think that factor plays that much of a part (due to official company members being welcome) and it's more that some members there, would consider some complaints virtually baseless and after time, a bit of contempt sneaks in towards new members.

At m3c I think it one of the few where I could say there is a Godfather and a hierarchy beneath them.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

http://community.my3cents.com/showTopic.cgi?id=29126

This guy maybe an overall pompous ass, but he certainly knows how keep threads interesting. He's probably one of the few that could mimick more then half the warrior types listed on this site.
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Possible Troller Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 102

congrats on being promoted to a clueless newbie... that does wonders to the self-esteem, lol
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Clueless Newb Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

here's another typical attention whore name raven2010, attacking a member who no longer exists on the site, I wonder there's a warrior name for beating a dead horse lol heres some of the comments.

More info on top notch towing
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Here we go, Nikki herself admits to working there

http://profile.yahoo.com/NK3LW42KQJGKVKYI24VRL3HGQY/

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Churro (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
This is getting ridiculous. I don't know why addy lets this bullying continue. Talk about crossing a line.

Huck_Hoshimoto (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
I don't get it.
I obviously don't know the backstory on this on - the ref. just shows some bleached out bow-wow stating that she works for a towing company, and no other text.

'Smore info?

raven2010 (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Sorry Huck---there were some reviews here on top notch towing in washington.

This woman commented on a lot of them then created a review as though she were a customer we she actually works there.

Even when called out by several of us ( I actually called and verified employment) she still denied it.

Too bad, because she really could have helped the community learn about towing issues if she had just been honest.

I did this digging and found this public info---I have a problem with folks who are less than honest, especially in this sort of situation

lexophiliac (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Oh what a tangled web was weaved when first she practiced to deceive.
Google is your friend.

Huck_Hoshimoto (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Well, she can't too swift if she states her place of employment openly on the Internet.

Thanks for the info.

madconsumer (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
what does it matter? do you have a NEED to be right?

if you called my company to verify i worked there or not, you would be slapped with a stalking charge.

very very true Churro!!

jktshff1 (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Truth is all what we are looking for. Great info raven.

madconsumer (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
truth when it comes to stalking?? didn't venice have this very same issue, being stalked?

MRM (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
This is the reason why I dont join any social media websites as your personal information can be revealed.

lexophiliac (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
What Raven has done does not fall under the legal definition of stalking or bullying. Get off her butt.

Alain (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
I suspect that we're not the only ones she decieved. I'm inclined to avoid social media sites, too, MRM. They make me uncomfortable for some reason. Of course, in some dusty cardboard box in a government basement there's probably a file on me, but only rats and silverfish care about it!

raven2010 (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
stalking legal definition

noun
A form of harassment generally comprised of repeated persistent following with no legitimate reason and with the intention of harming, or so as to arouse anxiety or fear of harm in the person being followed. Stalking may also take the form of harassing telephone calls, computer communications, letter-writing, etc.

http://law.yourdictionary.com/stalking

jktshff1 (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Calling someone out that is being untruthful, or knowingly trying to decieve another is not stalking.

DebtorBasher (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
Mr. Mike....that sounds like a challenge to me Wink

trmn8r (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
This thread has taken the usual turn. All that remains is to log into whackit.com under 10 different user ids to memorialize a fictionalized version. That should burn up 30 mintutes or so...

trmn8r (05/23/2012) Rate this > Select a ratingInappropriate Content/User HarassmentReport Spam
YOU ROCK BASHER!!!
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Carrion Crow, Back Biter ... it really depends. I think chasing someone who fibbed their arse off, wouldn't be defined as such.

The Oppressor aka Mongrel Dog -- the wannabe Big Dog who isn't, and expends a lot of time running back to make any weak warrior beaten down, is still playing dead.

However the yahoo profile is a little too convenient, and it just looks off.

Maybe if her email is public or confirmed as such in another manner, then yes, it means the young woman was being deceptive.

However a profile that just lists their birthday and where they work ... just a little weird don't you think.

Profiles are easy to fake.
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I know this falls under the 'I will prove you wrong bit" but seldom have I ever seen any member go to such lengths as calling up the companies of the review in question. Especially in the "google" era.
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I bought batteries that weren't included, so I had to buy them again.

When someone goes extreme with doxxing and researching just to know their enemy, generally it's so destructive to any social system that the collective social consciousness just suppresses the memory and everyone tries to make sure such incidents never get mentioned after they're over.

It's a lot more commonplace than you'd think, but because of that it's rare to actually hear word of it. At the same time, it's not so common that any one person is terribly likely to see it, at least not often from their own perspective.

And often, people aren't even able to see it, even if it's right in front of their face, in a way, because of the madness sometimes being swept under the rug so efficiently that it's imperceptible to all but those who are rather integral to larger sub-cliques within a given social system.
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http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=114264

Here's one I'd thought was worth sharing. The typical holy wars. I remember reading a post dating a few years back on warriors about someone wanting to troll an athious forum or something like that. It's not for me, but I do enjoy reading people get bent out of shape discussing anything remotely close to religion or politics. Enjoy the view.

enclosed is the link to the review. Aside from religion and such, reviews that discuss anything to do with racism/discrimation etc always seem to get minions all wound up. lolol

MDSasquatch (06/06/2012)

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I assume you are talking about the advertisement with two dads?

I don't normally shop at JCP, but will definitely avoid them now

trmn8r (06/06/2012)

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I believe that what is "right and just" is to treat people like people.

I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it, but the "Golden Rule" to me means treating others the way I want to be treated, which I agree with as a Christian.

The upshot of this is as a person I think that we should tolerate individual differences. Therefore I think JCP is on a pretty darned good course.

Unlike the previous reply, I will go out of my way to support JCP.

MDSasquatch (06/06/2012)

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two "dads" coming into JCP to shop is different than JCP using them to promote their business.

TLSmith (06/06/2012)

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I just went to jcp.com and-there is a father & son

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. – Proverbs 3:5-6

Comfortably_Numb (06/06/2012)

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do not judge so that you will not be judged. matthew 7:1
for in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. matthew 7:2

Justice74 (06/06/2012)

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I shop for clothes that fit, and that are reasonably priced. I don't shop for clothes because of who endorses the product, or which political agenda it supports.

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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1 Corinthians 2:14-15

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

This is a common mistake that we are not to criticize, yet scripture says we are to rebuke to correct and to guide those who are not walking right with God.

The man who receives the spirit from God can judge all things as he judges from the Spirit and not from human understanding therefore he judges the truth. What contradictions when we read the bible and take the message literally without any basis of why and when it was spoken.

Churro (06/06/2012)

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Nice write up but today JC Penny's is a publicly traded company and by law have a fiduciary responsibility to profit and not prophets. JCP isn't "promoting the homosexual agenda" (whatever that means) but rather trying to return to profitability for their shareholders. There's no morality considerations in publicly traded corporations and that's pretty much by law.

If you are offended by JCP’s advertising choices then by all means boycott them and spread the word for others to do the same. Let the free market hash this one out. The free market is never wrong.

Good luck with your crusade.

dan gordon (06/06/2012)

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I didn't know this website became an avenue for Christian bigotry? JC penney was also vehemently anti Semitic and employed almost no Jewish people unlike almost any other retailer in America. My favorite is the poster who said they never shop there but now will definitely not shop JCP. That will show them! And thanks to everyone for showing us the true way to Jesus!!

raven2010 (06/06/2012)

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I wasnt aware homosexuals had an "agenda".

Live and let live people. Your precious marriage is not threatened by same sex couples any more than it is threatened by that cute chick who lives on the corner and waves at your husband when he drives by.

*ROLL EYES*

Mario The Great (06/06/2012)

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Sounds like JCP has "An eye for a brown eye"

LMAO!!!

Yeah, I know my time is limited on this board, but we all have to have a sense of humor. After all, it's run by a bunch of prudish women.

ChuhBaca (06/06/2012)

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I think I will go to JC Penney tonight and make a purchase! Maybe pick up something for my wife as well.

jktshff1 (06/06/2012)

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Raven, my precious marriage is not threatened, it's the definition of same that is. I have no problem with people of different lifestiles celebrating their union with a name. It's not a marriage as it has been defined for centuries.
Call it Civil Union, Joining, whatever, but do not change the definition of a word simply because the libs want it.
Where does it stop?

raven2010 (06/06/2012)

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Ok, and interracial marriage was banned until common sense took over.

Allowing same sex couples the same rights and benefits as opposite sex couples does not hurt, threaten, or lessen the marriage of the same sex couple.

Just my humble opinion.

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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dan gordon (06/06/2012)

"I didn't know this website became an avenue for Christian bigotry?"

Are you saying this website is a one-sided biased site that only tolerates bigoted liberal opinions and viewpoints and that opposing opinions and viewpoints aren't welcome here?

raven2010 (06/06/2012)

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I hope he isnt saying that lexo---we have had some healthy "opposite sides" debates on here lately.

Churro (06/06/2012)

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"marriage as it has been defined for centuries. "

The definition of 'marriage' has changed considerably over the centuries. Just off the top of my head polygamy, divorce and government sanction are pretty huge changes.

Quite frankly the government has no business regulating, sanctioning or anyway sticking their nose into what constitutes marriage. That's just ridiculous and as is the case when government sticks their nose in it ends up making a mess.

The only people who define my marriage is my wife and I. That's it. I don't need any religion, government or person to define it for me. And why would anybody want to?

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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Marriage was and is defined, sanctioned, and sanctified by God. All other unions, partnerships, joinings, etc. are just that, no more. A marriage they do not make, no matter who or what attempts to misappropriate or redefine it.

ChuhBaca (06/06/2012)

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Well said, Churro. The problem is, there are those that seek to interfere in matters that have no relevance to their lives and bring harm to nobody!

All because they believe it's against "God's will". It would seem to me that the creator of heaven and earth, of human-kind and their destiny, would not create gay people if it was not his (or her) will!

To deny them basic freedoms is to question God.

SteveWiginowski (06/06/2012)

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Churro, the reason the government would want to define marriage is probably partially due to tax reasons.

Mario The Great (06/06/2012)

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Lexi - what if you're Agnostic or an Athiest? Why is it that religious people want to force their beliefs on non-religious people OR better yet, force people into wars? More people have died in the name of God than anything else. Why does it seem that people like this are ignorant and close minded? Just saying.

Churro (06/06/2012)

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"Marriage was and is defined, sanctioned, and sanctified by God"

Can you provide that definition and which diety defined it?

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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Mario - What of it? Why is it that non-religious people want to force their beliefs on religious and spiritual people? Why is it they presume to know what God thinks and proceed to speak for Him, when He has already spoken? Why are they so ignorant and close-minded? Just asking.

Justice74 (06/06/2012)

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Marriage is a man-made concept.

lexophiliac (06/06/2012)

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Google it under biblical defs Churro. Source - The God of Abraham and Isaac.

Justice74 (06/06/2012)

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Did God make humans, or did humans make-up God?

trmn8r (06/06/2012)

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I haven't cracked open a bible in years. In reading these JCP threads, I find that my guidance comes in a feeling I know what is right and wrong in this case.

"Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!!!"

Steve-n-NorCal (06/06/2012)

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God, please save me from your followers.....

Mario The Great (06/06/2012)

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That was great Steve-n-NorCal! Apparently, it's far to difficult to simply turn the channel or not patronize a store that has values that they don't agree with. I could care less if a store advertises homosexuality, bestiality, finality or whatever. If I don't agree with it, I keep my mouth shut and keep walking or clicking. People bash companies on here all of the time and the admins simply let them. Never bite the hand that feeds you, unless your the owner of a website, then really who cares?

jktshff1 (06/06/2012)

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Well put Steve

jktshff1 (06/06/2012)

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God has nothing to do with my thoughts on the subject. Heck, tax the churches since they get into politics.

ChuhBaca (06/06/2012)

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Jktshff1, good point. To me, this seems a legitimate question of keeping church and state separate. Instead of challenging an issue that REALLY violates the separation of church and state and discriminates against an entire segment of the population, we worry about whether Santa can be displayed at a government office.

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