Flame Warriors ~ View topic - This is how we do it. A Point by Point Guide.

I posted this on BH recently, originally I posted it on TDT.net. I originally found it while doing some research into the Bilderberg Group and David Icke. I've been using it ever since.

1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

Unfortunately, it only works for groups of like-minded individuals such as us at TDT who have assumed a position of obvious authority.
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Lurker Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 5 Location: cup o tea?

you missed the bit about always shagging sheep there Jack?

and always make air claims. You missed that bit too.

pip pip.
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Where's the airclaim there boy?

And I might add, you, as a Geordie Gasbag, are 1/2 chipfat and used Newcastle strips from African orphans on your mother's side.

G'an doon the toon and buy me tabs ya cowy.
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Er...What?
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Good luck trying to get other people into yours.

Wordy Bore Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 397

Whats a TDT ??

This is beautiful, TDT. It reminds me of Rush Limbaugh's tactics.
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Blowhard Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 173

Interesting work.

It looks like this forum is becoming a spot for inter-forum wars. Which is convenient for us because it means we don't have to go looking for people to poke and analyze, they're all coming here! Very Happy

Blowhard Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 173

I've been around, not a huge amount of posting though, I've just had a solid week of exams, but I've only got a few left now. Smile

Verbal Juggernaut Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 981

Hey, if we become the trading post for the flame cities, that's fine with me.

Oh man, now I gotta make myself a cowboy graphic just to keep up.
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Please, call me Jack. When I showed my TDT colleagues this site, the two responses I had were

"where do you get these wankers?"

and

"ewww, ST is there...and so is Iron Dork".

There is already a place for interboard altercation, it's calld Flamechamps, it has a wrestling theme.

What do you call someone who can, at will, fulfill any of the "flame roles" you have pigeon-holed?
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Leopardsocks, Grim is not, though I am a banana bender. (Slang for Queenslander)

Jack¬Spot¬TDT The warrior that appears to be of varied types (not a constant hybrid) is refered to as an Enigma. It's listed in the sticky Suggestions List.
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The important thing is knowing who owns the fence

I fucking hate flame deconstructivists.
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I'm not a warrior.

I'm a high level Shao-Lin Flamer with Jedi l33t skillz.

"HTH".
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<sarcasm>Good Mechanics are barstards aren't they. Not only do they know how to get the best out a car and know how to fix it, many of them know how one should drive a car, knows that maxium engine thrust is not always achived at full reves and gear changes are more effective at lower RPM. Won't find them installing a "wanker tip" to their exhaust system to make it sound "louder" or whatever.

They are barstards are they not. But many just prefer to watch others.

One of these days I hope to be one. </sarcasm>

Jack Spot wrote I'm a high level Shao-Lin Flamer with Jedi l33t skillz.

Well intelligent call on Lady Ice and the case of the missing IP. But I'm not altogether sure about the hacking of the PM.

If not the case, I think more a case of both Lady Ice's and ATVile's ISP blocked F.W. IP address block range briefly. It's also possible the F.W. server Sys op detected hacking and placed a block temperarily as well.

By definition, everyone has a type, you included Jack, unless you are indeed just imaginary. 3i + 5j heh heh
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Shut your fucking slabbering bitch-hole.
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Dear Jack. I am sorry. I thought the force was in you. Again I am sorry for you, and you have my sympathies, I hope the fever breaks soon.

I shall refrain from baiting you any longer, as I like your addition (this thread) to the tactics section. I've come across something like it before.

Fence Sitter.

P.S if you do feel the need to mock me, please do it in a manner that is not becoming of a Compost. ie don't swear curse etc.
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Don't even fucking TRY to compete with me, I'm the silverback, and you, bitch, are Jane Goodall.

Now I'm a FlameGuru with a Phd in Pain, and as such the only prescription for you is a

/SPANK.

I'm done with this thread now sweety, go reply to my other one..

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I already have replied. Done - as in you're done. I don't compete, I don't view you as any threat, except to my bandwidth. Bye.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 30