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These 2 weapons are as opposite as opposites get. The A.H. Stick (Ad Hominem Stick) is an item in the same vein as the Grenade: a tactic used so often that most Flame Warriors know it. It basically involves using invectives on the opponent.

Example:

Poster 1: blah blah blah this thing sux
Poster 2: no it doesn't
Poster 1: yes it does
Poster 2: no it doesn't you ignorant piece of monkey shit

This is a very popular tactic in a flamewar. However, it works only on lower-level warriors, or those warriors who are weak-willed (Fragile Femme, Innocence Abused, Weenie, etc.)

On the other hand, the Cudgel of Logic involves responding to your enemy's flames in a calm, rational way, pointing out flaws in your opponent's argument, showing the hypocrisy of your opponent, using Archivist tactics-basically, picking apart your opponent's argument. (You masy choose to add some sarcasm, if you like: it makes for a more damaging Cudgel of Logic.)

Example:

Poster 1: you are pathetic poster 2 y dont u go and fuk your momma
Poster 2: Pathetic? REALLY now? Who was the one who said that they could beat me with just one post? What happened?

Oh, I know....you didn't beat me with your first post.

And now you call ME pathetic! Oh noes! I am hurt! Get me a medic! Rolling Eyes

Seriously, I've seen a lot of whacked-out things on forums, but never before have I seen a King of Hypocrisy! I should take a picture, for posterity!

What's my point, you ask? My point is that you lose, Poster 1.

Good day.

As you can see, the Cudgel of Logic is very effective against those warriors who tend to create gaping holes in their arguments. However, there is one risk to using this tactic: if you yourself have created a flaw in your attack, an eagle-eyed opponent or an Archivist can use your bomb against you.

NOTE: While these weapons are not exactly the strongest of weapons, they become a formidable force when combined.

WARNING: Using an A.H. Stick at the wrong place or the wrong time or on the wrong opponent will often have serious repercussions. It may even give your opponent more "ammunition" to use against you.

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Clueless Newb Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 69 Location: UK

Yes I agree, it is not uncommon to cross paths with individuals who make a policy of applying logic to their arguments. And yes, when this individual disagrees with you his response may be infused with a degree of sarcasm.

I don't know if "logic bomb" is a good name for it, since that also happens to be the name for a malicious form of coding.
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Tactical Nuke?
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Then call it the Logic stick, or Logic cracker. Logic Stick would be the better label. Remember those who speak softly, often carry a big stick.
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Clueless Newb Joined: 28 Apr 2006 Posts: 69 Location: UK

But in a serious debate logic is a big stick to beat someone with.

Sorry, bad post...
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[quote="Chaos Revenant"]These 2 weapons are as opposite as opposites get.

Logic and invectives are by no means incompatible, retarded minion, as pointed out by moloko. By this stupidity you wrote, you show you are stupid and I call you a retard.

NOTE: While these weapons are not exactly the strongest of weapons, they become a formidable force when combined.

Logic is not the strongest of weapons? It might not seem so only for a retard like you.

More weapons to come soon from the dumbfucks...er,

Please stop showing your stupidity. One day it might haunt you.

Nice post of crap, Covenant Retard.

I will just make it easy for you:

CR wrote:

NHF wrote:
Chaos Revenant wrote:
NOTE: While these weapons are not exactly the strongest of weapons, they become a formidable force when combined.

Logic is not the strongest of weapons? It might not seem so only for a retard like you.

Hey, what's the matter? Got tired of calling me a "minion" and think it's better to call me a "retard"?

The matter is, my obtuse friend, that logic is the most powerful weapon in a debate. The fact that you fail to argue with that is typical of your stupid verbiage. The fact that I call you a retard is proof that indeed logic and sarcasm or expletives are not incompatible.

Everybody is happy.

"These 2 weapons are as opposite as opposites get".

"On the other hand, the Cudgel of Logic involves responding to your enemy's flames in a calm, rational way, pointing out flaws in your opponent's argument"

They are not opposite, retard. You can demonstrate that an argument is false, using logic, and the you can use at the same time expletives or sarcasm as an expression of anger (against a particularly moronic warrior like you, for instance). Logic is about coherence and truth in content; expletives and sarcasm about mood of expression.
Try to grasp it, retard. I'm kind enough to help you to learn but you are one of the most stupid pupils I've ever seen.

"As you can see, the Cudgel of Logic is very effective against those warriors who tend to create gaping holes in their arguments. However, there is one risk to using this tactic: if you yourself have created a flaw in your attack"

If you have created a flaw in your argument your argument was not logically constructed, as simple as that, and to try to show that someone else's argument is not logical by not being logical yourself shows that you are indeed stupid.

"While these weapons are not exactly the strongest of weapons, they become a formidable force when combined"

Logic, by definition, is the most powerful weapon in a debate. So that you don't chew anybody's ears as usual, I will paste the definition of debate for your convinience:

debate |di?b?t| noun a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward

Take this place as the public meeting, and take to see thread as the vehicles for discussion. Take formal as it's defined in the dictionary too ("done in accordance with rules of convention") Now take the definition of logic :

logic |?läjik| noun 1 reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity :

And I'm sure everybody will agree that being right in a debate it's the most powerful position to be in one.

You are welcome, retard. I knew you would appreciate my help.

"WARNING:[/b][/color] Using an A.H. Stick at the wrong place or the wrong time or on the wrong opponent will often have serious repercussions. It may even give your opponent more "ammunition" to use against you."

Ovbiously, retard. If your argument was false or contradictory you would see yourself as you are here, in deep shit.

It was obvious before this simple lesson, retard, that logic is the most important weapon in a debate.

Now that I've been kind enough to reason with you, nitwit, would you care to attempt to prove your stupid assertion, that "logic is not one of the most important weapons in a debate"?

this isn't me choosing sides here

but dude....learn to use the quote function.

juts follow Covenant Retard's tactic, you will do just fine.

"Just because 2 things are opposite, it does not necessarily mean they are incompatible. You proved that yourself, when you said "You can demonstrate that an argument is false, using logic, and the you can use at the same time expletives or sarcasm as an expression of anger".

Yes, that is what you failed to understand from the beginning

"Just because I conceded one of your points does not automatically mean victory for you."

it just mean that even a fucktard like you had to admit the obvious. How on earth you don't see the rest is most likely due to pride.

"Oh, and keep digging your grave, peon...the inevitable will come soon enough."

Please stop talking like Dr Octopus