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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:48 am  Reply with quote
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Firstly, the presence of people not being who they claim to be. ie their gender.


Elaborate why that's supposedly a legitimate reason for improbability.

The wisest confirm their target's gender, I'm sure. I'll remind you of MSN Messenger's webcam feature.

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Secondly, most half smart members are going to share the pm's and ims with others, resulting I'd imagine, with a few wooden sticks being sharpened up for an interesting stick throwing contest.


Not all women are going to share their PMs. Whether by lack of intelligence or concern for the outcome of PM exchange with the Vampire, there are those who will preserve that privacy.

EVEN IF a woman shares the Vampire's messages, so what? That halting or impeding her corruption depends on the Vampire's proficiency.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:06 am  Reply with quote
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The Vampire is rare, since its such a precise and calculated demeanor. I have seen a few of them, usually in smaller forums.

When forum activity is at its peak, you won't see a vampire participating in any discussions. They are either lurking or away from the computer altogether, waiting for the opportune hour to strike. Only when the forum has the fewest online members will he depart from the darkest shadows of his castle and into the village to find a victim.

Now this is what really sets the Vampire apart from other Warriors. They use flame wars and debates as a means for seducing prey. To flaunt their dominance, they target a lone forum-surfing girl and tear into her with an effective tact, grace, and charm.

Then he takes her into PM/IM, where, in their isolation, he masterfully begins recreating her into a new being. You'll notice dramatic changes in the girl's personality soon afterward... permanent changes implanted into her by the Vampire... one of the most rarest and lethal Warriors, for they are in effect attacking the hearts of other forum warriors by stealing away their romantice interests



The more I read this description, the more it just sounds like you've read something more (extra) into observing a guy trying to get into a chicks soft spot.

You probably need to define what sort of changes or how she acts differently to the rest of the forum after being " infected".

There is a list of similarly suggested warriors like "Don Juan" already.


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Elaborate why that's supposedly a legitimate reason for improbability.

The wisest confirm their target's gender, I'm sure. I'll remind you of MSN Messenger's webcam feature.


I'll get to that but first - Yes improbable, but that doesn't mean not possible. You did qualify the suggestion by saying it was rare and you'd noticed it a couple of times. The only problem I see, is arriving at a similar sort of warrior you observed - given the present description. As I read your suggestion in it's present form, I envisage a variety of Prev

Of course I realise there are circimstances where someone can be confident that they have identified someone's gender or even identity. Myspace and similar webspaces and other things such as Voip and as you mention, webcams, certainly help to seemingly identify the gender. However there are other factors apart from gender, which are important in creating an illusion of identity as well.

One thing I feel you need to do is stress or point out that this "male" warrior is exceptionally careful to approach only those they know absolutely to be female AND receptive to E-chest beating and E-muscle flexing and posturing. There are many blokes who end up on forums as Imposter, and I'm sure have worked out it's a good thing to know nice looking female friend who'll help them out (ie visual proof) from time to time. There are plent of chicks who are very smart and savvy but find it's best to travel the net with a fake naive dumbed down persona.

People who aren't receptive, either through being an Imposter or though being an experieced net savvy chick, are going to be the end of the sort of warrior you've seen. I'd suggest it's just though sheer luck or some other factor, that the warriors you've observed haven't been stuck with a tell all rank title.

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Not all women are going to share their PMs. Whether by lack of intelligence or concern for the outcome of PM exchange with the Vampire, there are those who will preserve that privacy.


Well I gues not, as you've witnessed this type of warrior a couple of times. Still it has to be a very perceptive or perhaps skilled warrior to persuade someone to keep quiet.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:18 pm  Reply with quote
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You probably need to define what sort of changes or how she acts differently to the rest of the forum after being " infected".


I could, but I don't want to narrow the specifics down so much that actual Vampires are labeled something else by the fact the suspected girl didn't act "quite as the profile said." When we spot the general occurances of this in a forum, we'll of course see variations that all work with the same pattern. I'm sure delving into more detail would only result in confusion. While I don't believe in watering or dumbing things down, there is that other end, where if I over-complicate it, there's no progress made.

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I'll get to that but first - Yes improbable, but that doesn't mean not possible. You did qualify the suggestion by saying it was rare and you'd noticed it a couple of times. The only problem I see, is arriving at a similar sort of warrior you observed - given the present description. As I read your suggestion in it's present form, I envisage a variety of Prev


How do you read my warrior description, then read Perv's, and not notice the blinding differences? The Vampire is VERY interested in and focused on psychology, combat, tact, and method. My original posts on the new warrior makes that clear.

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One thing I feel you need to do is stress or point out that this "male" warrior is exceptionally careful to approach only those they know absolutely to be female AND receptive to E-chest beating and E-muscle flexing and posturing. There are many blokes who end up on forums as Imposter, and I'm sure have worked out it's a good thing to know nice looking female friend who'll help them out (ie visual proof) from time to time. There are plent of chicks who are very smart and savvy but find it's best to travel the net with a fake naive dumbed down persona.


Anyone as organized in thought as this, to plan out their actions, to have prowess with words, takes someone who would, naturally, practice caution. That goes without saying.

Yet..... if a target who they assumed was a girl turned out to be a guy, it has nothing to do with the bigger picture. Should every possible thing that could go wrong be noted in the Vampire's description? No, that's absurd.

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Well I gues not, as you've witnessed this type of warrior a couple of times. Still it has to be a very perceptive or perhaps skilled warrior to persuade someone to keep quiet.


I've found through experience in coquetry (maybe you can attest to this), that women enjoy themselves greatly when trading cheek with a man. They would only raise alarm with their friends if they ended up feeling threatened.... which The Vampire, while practicing dominance, knows to keep it within certain bounds to gain her trust.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:08 pm  Reply with quote
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When I read, I don't bother with the presumed artistic interpretations if I find them of little importance.

As I said, the more I read it, but perhaps it's just me, the more I think you see more than what there really is. I see more and more - suave bloke impresses chick via pm or whatever. Chick eventually comes in line with dominant blokes thinking. That's all I read, no matter what words you'd like to use, unless you want to start and actually define something more than that.

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How do you read my warrior description, then read Perv's, and not notice the blinding differences? The Vampire is VERY interested in and focused on psychology, combat, tact, and method. My original posts on the new warrior makes that clear.


As to desciptions like Perv. I keep a very open view of such descriptions. If I use or see the word in common use to describe various netizens, I don't think of them exactly as the desciption here. I think most of us know what a Perv is.

Your vampire operates when no one is around, I gathered he engages the chick. He focuses on the chick. He gets the chick. This then helps him do ? He then sets off for what more chicks? Then he still operates when no one is about much or with a small army of doting chicks, does he come out in to the daylight?

Pervs hover about, sometimes predatory in manner. They operate in the open or behind the scene. It's all about getting something sexual out of it. The chick does have to impressed to interact. I'd imagine for that brief time she'd react differently and be agreeable to his/her line of thinking.

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Anyone as organized in thought as this, to plan out their actions, to have prowess with words, takes someone who would, naturally, practice caution. That goes without saying.

Yet..... if a target who they assumed was a girl turned out to be a guy, it has nothing to do with the bigger picture. Should every possible thing that could go wrong be noted in the Vampire's description? No, that's absurd.


Oh, the luck has to be with him, since choosing to "hit" on the wrong person, who's not what they are, they are going to quickly find themselves well and truely baited. Baited meaning if they are any sort of threat, someone's going to be harping to an admin / mod to create a suitable custom title. If they aren't a threat to anyone, then he hasn't anything to worry about, but that then questions his motive in the first place.

Besides, remember I mentioned - it's people who aren't who they claim to be. I don't think for an instant you mean he'd stop at one chick. I'm guessing he'd have a "thirst" for more.
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