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Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:30 am
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Abusive Admin
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I'm tired of all the misconceptions about this site, flaming, and so on. An issue made worse by some of our members being too diplomatic (in the days before we realized most of the visitors from brawl-hall were devoid of talent and reason). So, now that I can speak freely without worrying I'll offend someone of future value to this forum, let's get into it.
There are no sites mostly oriented around people flaming each other for fun. Flames are personal attacks that come up during civil online debate. Since flames are spontaneous, you can't specialize in having them with one another all of the time. The very name comes from the concept of "heated" arguments. Any watered down version of this is can't be called a real flame any more than an athlete from American Gladiators could be equated to a real gladiator from Ancient Rome. Trolls can claim whatever they want about their skills, but that doesn't make trolling something other than trolling.
As for Flame Warriors, it's kind of hard to explain the site directly because doing so in the past was too much for outsiders to grasp. As such, I will use an analogy. Imagine that flames are cuts of beef, and trolling is a form of filler. If your head hurts already, you're probably not going to be able to follow this. It's not a challenging analogy.
So-called "flame sites" are little more than fast-food joints, serving low-grade beef mixed with filler but (for some insane reason) calling it steak. Some sell processed vegetable matter with beef flavoring, and others are at the level of hot dog carts. Amazingly, the proprieters involved insist that while they have plenty of ribeye and filet mignon in the back, you're getting served crap because they feel no need to cook you the finer meat. The members are mostly unskilled, angry, and poorly-compensated people who will often move from one such "restaurant" to another until they find a niche.
Flame Warriors, on the other hand, is like a training school for butchers, with a few USDA classes on quality. We make no claims about being a great restaurant, we just carve up the beef. Meat is categorized, labeled, priced, and presented. Every once in a while we may throw meat at one another, but such fights are unprofessional and promote a poor learning environment. As such, they are spontaneous rather than forced. Though some of us might make a mean steak, most preparation and cooking is done on one's personal time. Our goal is carving up the beef, not selling cooked meals.
Along that same vein, Flame-Truth would be something like an beef industry report. For the most part staffed by people who consume and prepare beef of varying quality.
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I hope this has helped clear up any confusion. Flame Warriors is a flame processing center, where flaming may occur as a matter of consequence. Flame Warriors is not a flame site because there is no such thing.
Edit 1: minor corrections
Edit 2: removed the "Reply here" link I accidentally inserted _________________
Tireless Rebutter / Archivist
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:48 am
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Possible Troller
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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Location: Ashdod, Israel
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That answers my first question there.
This site is not mature enough for me to be in, sorry to dissapoint then but i must leave then.
BTW, you can thank me for clearing up a troller around here (FWS).
Anyway, i'll be rarely visiting this website,.
Goodbye,
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:08 am
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I am..
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
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Location: Fuck you
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| TomerM wrote: |
That answers my first question there.
This site is not mature enough for me to be in, sorry to dissapoint then but i must leave then.
BTW, you can thank me for clearing up a troller around here (FWS).
Anyway, i'll be rarely visiting this website,.
Goodbye,
TomerM |
So you prefer watered down flaming sites? As much as I wouldn't really care if your gone you do create a balance for FWS. Though I have a feeling your using this as an excuse to slip away. _________________
I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake. |
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:19 am
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Abusive Admin
Joined: 14 Jan 2005
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Location: The Archive of Fortitude
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| TomerM wrote: |
That answers my first question there.
This site is not mature enough for me to be in, sorry to dissapoint then but i must leave then.
BTW, you can thank me for clearing up a troller around here (FWS).
Anyway, i'll be rarely visiting this website,.
Goodbye,
TomerM |
Well, if you gotta go, best of luck to you. I thought you tortured FWS pretty effectively; I have no idea why he's started attacking random newbies as if they raped and killed his entire family. The only other person who does that is Alistair. _________________
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:19 am
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Hells Kitchen Enforcer
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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The Flame Sphinx has noted your comments.
The answer to the riddle lies within your grasp. _________________
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:21 am
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Clueless Newb
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Location: New Latveria
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| TomerM wrote: |
That answers my first question there.
This site is not mature enough for me to be in, sorry to dissapoint then but i must leave then.
BTW, you can thank me for clearing up a troller around here (FWS).
Anyway, i'll be rarely visiting this website,.
Goodbye,
TomerM |
Well, I hope he's handled for good. He needs to stay off my ass (because I know he loves men's asses), I don't feel like putting up with his bullshit forever. _________________
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:52 am
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Hells Kitchen Enforcer
Joined: 16 Feb 2005
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Smacking down crumb-snatching budding flamers carries no appeal for me. There is precious little in the way of sport to be had, and it is a disservice to the community as a whole. The process of natural selection will weed out the meek and mild, BH and like sites will take those with disorders which inhibit comprehension and resultant growth to varying degrees; thinning the herd until the the potential 1 in 1000 may shine.
The recent preschooler 'slugfest' illustrates this point. Mindless attack met with mindless defense. Marginally clever at best; the barrage of introspective turned invective was almost painful to witness, an engagement consisting of mutual self-inflicted woundings.
Let the rugrats romp; give them none save the requisite attention due...it will all work out for the best in the end. _________________
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:05 pm
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Clueless Newb
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
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No FW is about worthless flamers getting owned by BHers. No matter how much we rant about your trolling, it doesn't upset us, it makes you look stupid. _________________ H.C. Trouble is the king of flaming. |
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Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:19 pm
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Blowhard
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 226
Location: Through the glass, darkly.
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Meat. Yum. _________________ Ang pangit mo! |
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Wed May 10, 2006 8:06 am
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Lurker
Joined: 03 May 2006
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great, great I'm signing up
Turn me into a expert butcher _________________ Smile  |
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:35 am
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Clueless Newb
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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| irritus wrote: |
As for Flame Warriors, it's kind of hard to explain the site directly because doing so in the past was too much for outsiders to grasp. As such, I will use an analogy. Imagine that flames are cuts of beef, and trolling is a form of filler. If your head hurts already, you're probably not going to be able to follow this. It's not a challenging analogy.
So-called "flame sites" are little more than fast-food joints, serving low-grade beef mixed with filler but (for some insane reason) calling it steak. Some sell processed vegetable matter with beef flavoring, and others are at the level of hot dog carts. Amazingly, the proprieters involved insist that while they have plenty of ribeye and filet mignon in the back, you're getting served crap because they feel no need to cook you the finer meat. The members are mostly unskilled, angry, and poorly-compensated people who will often move from one such "restaurant" to another until they find a niche.
Flame Warriors, on the other hand, is like a training school for butchers, with a few USDA classes on quality. We make no claims about being a great restaurant, we just carve up the beef. Meat is categorized, labeled, priced, and presented. Every once in a while we may throw meat at one another, but such fights are unprofessional and promote a poor learning environment. As such, they are spontaneous rather than forced. Though some of us might make a mean steak, most preparation and cooking is done on one's personal time. Our goal is carving up the beef, not selling cooked meals.
Along that same vein, Flame-Truth would be something like an beef industry report. For the most part staffed by people who consume and prepare beef of varying quality.
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Well, after reading that, all I could think of was getting a huge chunk of beef from the butcher tonight, and carving it up on my butcher block.
Surprisingly, carving up meat can be really relaxing. But, I can tell by the way you write, you already know how to carve up meat. _________________ Yep. He's dead. |
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Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:56 am
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Lurker
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Location: here, no...there...no, there...damn
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:50 am
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Lurker
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| So those who can do, and those who can't teach? Or is this an armchair quarterback club? |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:02 pm
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Space Whale
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
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Location: Far, far away from wherever you are
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| Jose Uwont wrote: |
| So those who can do, and those who can't teach? Or is this an armchair quarterback club? |
So those who can do...What?
And those who can't teach...What?
Fucking foreigners...Can't they learn the goddamn language first? _________________ Every person alive lives in their own personal alternate reality.
Good luck trying to get other people into yours. |
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:29 pm
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Abusive Admin
Joined: 14 Jan 2005
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Location: The Archive of Fortitude
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| Jose Uwont wrote: |
| So those who can do, and those who can't teach? Or is this an armchair quarterback club? |
Way to miss the metaphor. We are people who have seen flaming and participated in it. However, the purpose of the board is to catelog flamers, not to compete in some idiotic contest to declare ourselves the best flamers. _________________
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:12 pm
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Clueless Newb
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Location: The Garbage State
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Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:50 pm
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Abusive Admin
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Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:56 pm
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Lurker
Joined: 02 Jan 2007
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Interesting place y'all have here.
I had seen links/depictions of the categories for a few years - cool to find the lab where these types are established.
I'll probably just lurk around and take notes - just wanted to say good job. |
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Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:59 pm
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Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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I for one am not here for that I saw the characterisations a long time ago, almost six months or more, I think, but the forum I noticed much later and all the nice goodies in it, including "battle plans" What can I say, it's what a flame warrior would always want (nice departuring them from trolls, btw)
To sum it up for me, this site is an informational tool about the existence of there different personalities living together on the internet and on forums for the more or less acute pleasure of arguing and imposing their view, and here for me is the best way to see inside their personalities through outside eyes.
Well, I think I said enough, I wasn't planning on making a new-commer topic in the beginning either, so this would be a substitute for it, I'll just be lurking around until I see something interesting I wanna express myself at or just tire from the usuall business for a while. |
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Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:35 pm
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-CAT
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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Location: on yo forumz
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Wow, last post was 2007, that's worth a necromancing.  |
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Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:37 am
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Possible Troller
Joined: 24 May 2008
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| Wow, last post was 2007, that's worth a necromancing. |
Your ego is getting the best of you; or maybe this was an era--when you were more comfortable here; or perhaps...
I am sure that Irritus would have resurrected it on his own, if he thought that process was "worth" anything. Maybe, you're just posting your--CliffNotes for Lazy Idiots--version. I already read this.
P.S. You're certainly not as funny as you used to be. You also have correctly labeled yourself as Me-Too. Thanks for the Live Demonstration.
May I point out: Your "welcome" to this forum was 180 degrees different than I have experienced (although,I have had some very pleasurable, civil interactions). I've asked myself why this is. Now, mind you, I'm recounting the mere three or four posts initial posts you made/received. Was your introduction more pleasing? written better? (I may give you that one) ...was the group just different? Really, I'd like to know. This is "specifically" comparing apples-apples. I'd like to hear YOUR response on this, Me. Also, please keep in mind that I am all too familiar with Border Bullies (athough, I am not saying that about you). I am certainly not whining about anything--just making an obvious observation.
In all honestly, I find it very embarrassing to have this post count, when 98% of my posts have been wasted on...stopping there--I feel a setup.
Also, in case you didn't notice Me, -- ::"or is it You? or is it Me? or...ahh shaut-up! ...so confusing:: -- Everyone has all but disappeared here, except a few "court-jestors." ::Probably somewhere cool--like Tahiti. *Sigh* ::
Oh my ...it's a conspiracy. I'm so paranoid. Not.
I don't blame the regs; I would have ignored these pathetic threads days ago. On point, I loved In You Eye's use of the word "invective," earlier in this thread. Great word--I had forgotten it. Back to studying. |
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:59 am
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-CAT
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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Location: on yo forumz
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Funny how you jump on posts totally unrelated to you and write long ass replies.
Thank you for the online-psychoanalysis, I sure will read it when I am bored enough. |
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:30 pm
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Possible Troller
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Your welcome Me. I think you threw the first shot though; and I was already on edge --provoked by another member. I'll try to be more concise like you. Let me know if you enjoy the read. Any thought on the questions I asked you? I was being humble when I asked?
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/forum/viewtopic.php?p=51163&highlight=#51163
<<That's what triggered me (that stupid pic is gone now--thank you Irritus). You probably walked in at the wrong time—for me.
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Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:04 am
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ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNO-CAT
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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Chuckie, maybe you should just understand some things about the internet.
People don't really know each other.
I am another random stranger who likes to bicker in here and there, mock threads and people, but I am not really hating anyone.
Maybe getting overly upset about people here gave you the bad reputation?
Just a thought because I didn't analyze it in depth.
Let's just say if someone pulls your leg constantly and doesn't let lose it's time to ignore the person.
Because one can't change the behavior of the others with words alone if they don't want their behavior to be changed.
So that was my word for the day, good luck.  |
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:29 pm
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| What is this site about? What about fuck you how does that sound? |
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