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Chaos Revenant
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:50 am  Reply with quote
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Link.

Basically, it started out as a normal Deacon/Atheist war until "Joseph" drops a bomb on page 2.

Joseph wrote:
Observation: Religion is a dangerous disease that threatens humanity.
Sub-observation: A dangerous disease that threatens humanity must be wiped out by any means.
Conclusion: Religion must be wiped out by any means.

Proposed Solutions:

1.) Kill off all religious people (estimated approx. 4.2 billion of the Earth's population) or make them reject their religion. Using them as expendable labor or test subjects for medical and scientific purposes may be considered.
2.) Destroy all religious books, objects, structures, and paraphernalia.
3.) Ban books that speak positively of religion, or could be used as the founding tenets of a religion. Only books with acceptable content are to be allowed, to avoid contamination of people's minds.
4.) Make practicing a religion punishable with the highest penalties under civil law.
5.) Foster a scientific and logical worldview in all through education.

If you are unwilling to implement these solutions, then I can do nothing. But know this: I am only attempting to work for the greater good, and thus, I have calculated the quickest path towards the destruction of all barriers to this end. No matter what we do, history will vindicate us in the end for making a brighter future.

Are YOU prepared to do what must be done?


Hilarity ensues, with massive objections and even threatening "Joseph" that he is being reported to the FBI. Even a self-proclaimed atheist objects to this.

Oh, and BTW, I am "Joseph". I set them up the bomb. Should I let them know?
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Kramer
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:44 am  Reply with quote
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Gotta love how Joseph makes it *painfully* obvious he's trolling and people still take the bait.

Seriously, if it was anymore obvious, he would have written "Oh, by the way, I'm totally trolling for responses" in his post.
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ambosen
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:08 pm  Reply with quote
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I;m surprised noone tried to engage you by pointing out that the century with the highest number of atheists (the 20th in case anyone was curious) killed more people then every verifiably claimed religious conflict in history.


Of course, what I really worry about are the "atheists" with substitute gods.
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Kramer
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:29 pm  Reply with quote
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But anyway Chaos, if these people are stupid enough to not know they were obviously trolled, then no, I wouldn't tell them at all.
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ambosen
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:31 pm  Reply with quote
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Kramer wrote:
But anyway Chaos, if these people are stupid enough to not know they were obviously trolled, then no, I wouldn't tell them at all.


Yeah. Yahoo comments aren't the best place to find a few co-conspirators. Great place to et death threats for simply claiming to have an opinion on something though, so maybe Chaos's problem in this case is a lousy audience.
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Kramer
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:33 pm  Reply with quote
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Well, I mean,, you would think someone with two brain cells would get to this part:

"1.) Kill off all religious people (estimated approx. 4.2 billion of the Earth's population) or make them reject their religion. Using them as expendable labor or test subjects for medical and scientific purposes may be considered. "

And just go "Yeah riiiiiiight, troll" while rolling their eyes, but apparently no, these people did not.

But like you said, Yahoo comments usually don't have big thinkers.
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ambosen
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:46 pm  Reply with quote
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The biggest problem of course, is that on the modern internet, the most insane opinions are the most noticable, as they're often the most repeated. I mean in reality, I know the majority of both religious and atheistic people I've met can easily go about their lives for decades in close proximity, sometimes without even having a clue in hell one or the other "plays for the other team" so to speak.

Fact is, so many people have repeated exactly such insane opions in all such seriousness, that the shock value for many people is gone completely. One needs to engage in a much more subtle, and involved form of trolling to accomplish much.
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Kramer
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:50 pm  Reply with quote
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See, that's the kind of trolling I like/respect.

I much more go for a troll who's statements translate too:

a) Hmmm, is he or isn't he?

Rather then

b) Yeah, he's obviously looking for a response

Trolls who are extremely subtle about what they do usually suceed a lot more then what Chaos did in the thread he linked too.
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ambosen
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:06 pm  Reply with quote
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Subtlety often works best when one has a few co-conspirators however; every trolling attempt in my opinion should have at least one designated "straight man".

I still think Chaos could get some more mileage out of this, but it might help to derail the comments to the intended subject a few times.
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Chaos Revenant
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:39 am  Reply with quote
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ambosen wrote:
I;m surprised noone tried to engage you by pointing out that the century with the highest number of atheists (the 20th in case anyone was curious) killed more people then every verifiably claimed religious conflict in history.


Well, someone pointed out that "communism [an atheistic philosophy] killed more people than any religious war".

ambosen wrote:
Fact is, so many people have repeated exactly such insane opions in all such seriousness, that the shock value for many people is gone completely. One needs to engage in a much more subtle, and involved form of trolling to accomplish much.


Hence why my strategy was to make a statement so ludicrously screwed up that it could only be a troll post.

But yes, I admit Yahoo News is hardly the creme de la creme of trolling targets.

ambosen wrote:
I still think Chaos could get some more mileage out of this, but it might help to derail the comments to the intended subject a few times.


My current strategy is to accuse them of having double standards for giving the rest of the hostile atheists in the thread a free pass on their rhetoric, while objecting to me putting their hatred into a concrete plan.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:11 am  Reply with quote
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I don't understand it, I say all the time to kill people of large magnitudes. I even estimated (and didn't just pull a number out of my ass) that all "sexual deviants", (homosexuals, bisexuals, tranvestites, pedophiles, etc etc) would makeup about 50% of the U.S. population, which is about 15 million people. Which is also the amount of illegal mexicans that are in this country.

I then concluded if spics want a green card, they should get rid of the homos so we can have a higher standard of living without fags muckying things up. And whilest fifteen million people may seem like alot, it's only 0.5% of the world population, and still less the Stalin killed.

Noone butthurts over that. Infact, people don't say anything. Wholly I just go ignored. I mean yeah, I'm always saying crap like that. But then why do I get banned if they're used to it?
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Chopper Chuck
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:20 am  Reply with quote
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Jim, I think it's really time to stop with this satanist delusion. You're driving me insane. Your walls of text are so hard to read, tinged with hate for everyone and everything, and full of anime screengrabs what is that?

Wow, you're annoying.


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Kramer
PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:42 am  Reply with quote
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Chopper, i'm thinking that is his intention.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:04 pm  Reply with quote
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Probably. No one's that annoying.

Either way, I don't have time for his jibba jabba.
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Jim Profit
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:14 am  Reply with quote
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You don't know what a long post is. If I wanted to make a long post, I'd make a topic.

One time I made a facebook post that had 25,000 characters. Trust me, I'm trying to dumb it down for you simpletons...

People have to admit defeat if they can't even be bothered to read my posts. Refusal to read means refusal to debate. The issue in question must just not mean that much to you if you can't even bother to read posts related to the discussion.

The anime pictures are for your convience. They exist to put less stress on your eyes when you read my text. It makes the post seem smaller as your eyes can relax and focus on the broader picture rather then having to accurately read paragraph to paragraph non-stop. And facebook does not allow hotlinked images, so you can immagine how difficult that was to read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjXSEA1FdQ

If you cannot have adult discourse, then maybe you should not argue in the firstplace. Your powers of strawman politics and halfass troll attempts will not work on me silly billy.
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Kramer
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:15 am  Reply with quote
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Jim Profit wrote:
WAAAAAAAAH! NOBODY WILL WEAD MY LONG POSTS! WAAAAAAAH!


It would probably work better for you if:

a) You had something interesting work discussing

b) People weren't no-selling your posts and not getting riled up over them with the exception of one person who is just getting slightly annoyed at how dull and long your posts are.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:56 am  Reply with quote
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Exactly. I lose patience with his drivel halfway through the first paragraph. I enjoy reading a good, well thought out post once in a while but it needs subject matter and content. His mind-numbing keyboard vomit has neither.
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Chaos Revenant
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:39 am  Reply with quote
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I'm inclined to agree with both Kramer and Chopper Chuck. Jim, your skills at ranting are great, but eventually, your omnicidal rage wears on me. Seriously, I think your nihilism and rebelliousness is a tad overblown and reeks of a desire to be "edgy".

Jim Profit wrote:
People have to admit defeat if they can't even be bothered to read my posts. Refusal to read means refusal to debate. The issue in question must just not mean that much to you if you can't even bother to read posts related to the discussion.


I did read. I just don't care for what you said. Your observations smack of pride in your accomplishments at making inflammatory claims.

Jim Profit wrote:
If you cannot have adult discourse, then maybe you should not argue in the firstplace. Your powers of strawman politics and halfass troll attempts will not work on me silly billy.


If you can't type up a decent, logical response, perhaps you should consider not arguing in the first place. You're just spewing half-baked, long-winded INTERNET RAEG. That's what you've been doing in half of your posts. It's not a very good shtick.

Please, take it to your blog if you have one. I am not interested in slogging through that. I want edifying conversation, not random ravings. Dig?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:33 am  Reply with quote
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Jim literally fills out the trilogy of Darling Reagan and no hard feelings....trolls who try way to hard to get people riled up but have no substance and lose steam after a few days.
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Kramer wrote:
Jim literally fills out the trilogy of Darling Reagan and no hard feelings....trolls who try way to hard to get people riled up but have no substance and lose steam after a few days.


Except the other two could occasionally be entertaining.
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True, it was entertaining watching no hard feelings try so hard to get a rise out of people and fail, but with Darling Reagan, it was more of a "shaking of my head" feeling rather then being amused.
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Jim Profit wrote:
I even estimated (and didn't just pull a number out of my ass) that all "sexual deviants", (homosexuals, bisexuals, tranvestites, pedophiles, etc etc) would makeup about 50% of the U.S. population, which is about 15 million people.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around this.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:40 pm  Reply with quote
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Kramer wrote:
Seriously, if it was anymore obvious, he would have written "Oh, by the way, I'm totally trolling for responses" in his post.
I was thinking the same thing.

Jim Profit wrote:
People have to admit defeat if they can't even be bothered to read my posts. Refusal to read means refusal to debate. The issue in question must just not mean that much to you if you can't even bother to read posts related to the discussion.
I second this for the most part. Personally I don't see why people have trouble reading your posts. I don't think I've seen you ramble.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:55 pm  Reply with quote
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Well after I labeled Jim as a "Deep Thought" it didn't bother me not to read through their posts. Essentially I have a basic idea Jim is either misguided or trolling, and I don't really care enough to try and figure out which is which.

Glad to see you back and about irritus.
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